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It’s not very often that I do full recaps of an Affiliate Summit session, but so many people asked me about Ask the Affiliate Networks and it correlated enough with my own session that I felt the need to this time. My own session was Comparing Affiliate Networks and focused on 4 of the 5 networks featured in the Ask the Affiliate Networks panel. You can view the slide deck for that presentation although the video will be much more helpful once Affiliate Summit publishes it.
The description for the Ask the Affiliate Networks session was as follows: Wonder what you could do to earn more with a network? How a dispute over quality is handled? Top networks weigh in on your questions, talk what theyโre most excited about today, and whatโs to come. It was moderated by Oliver Roup, the Founder of Viglink. Participants included:
- Dan Chiss, Head of Network Solutions, Google Affiliate Network
- Allison Fox, Senior Director, Publisher Development, PepperJam Exchange
- Brian Littleton, President/CEO, ShareASale.com, Inc
- Kerri Pollard, President, Commission Junction
- Adam Weiss, SVP Global Network Development, LinkShare
I hear a lot of complaints about networks (and have a lot myself) so I expected this panel to be pretty lively with the network reps each addressing complaints/misconceptions about networks on the whole as well as their individual networks. In total, the panel only got through 8 moderated questions and 3 questions from the audience. Most of the questions were very generic and did not lend themselves to conflicting opinions or approaches. If I did not know much about the networks going into the session, I would have thought that pretty much all of them operated the exact same way based on their responses. Here are a few of the things that I did find interesting or worthy of pointing out.
- As far as differentiation, Linkshare is heavier on fashion and apparel brands and is working a lot on expanding globally. Commission Junction prides itself on its scale regarding both number of affiliates and number of merchants. Shareasale is focused more on niche retail. Pepperjam is concerned primarily with innovation and tools. Google is working to bring in new merchants that have never had affiliate programs before and high levels of quality.
- Shareasale wants content publishers to ask directly for help if they need matched with merchants. Commission Junction believes that content publishers are at the top of the funnel and generally do not convert well. Linkshare and Google think it’s a matter of the content publishers getting matched up with the right brands.
- All of them acknowledge that affiliate marketing is overwhelming for affiliates and basically education and engagement are the keys to those challenges.
- Each network is doing things from a technological standpoint to make it easier for publishers. Google rolled out the Blogger widget and now has Recommended Advertisers. Pepperjam has PJX Links. Shareasale wants to help publishers find what they need faster through Baskets. Commission Junction is working on the import/export of product catalogs. Linkshare is creating everything with an easy/medium/hard level approach to correspond to the needs of the particular affiliate.
- The answers for network quality were so dull that I hardly even took notes. Everyone talked about the need for transparency. No real specifics of any kind were discussed except the term “forced click” being used once. Commission Junction did say that they will not allow anything that would be considered “illegal or fraudulent” but would leave all other decisions on the gray areas up to the merchants.
- When asked about what is exciting or interesting in our industry, one of the most important answers to me came from Google about attribution. The panel didn’t get into it much, but I agreed completely with the mention about it because it is going to be huge in the coming year.
- Interestingly when asked which publishers are seeing growth, Google, Commission Junction, and Linkshare all mentioned coupon/deal sites and loyalty sites. This is the opposite of what I am hearing from my affiliate marketing friends. I wonder if it is because the “big” sites just keep getting bigger which is forcing out the small/medium sites? Most small/medium affiliate marketers consider those areas totally saturated and not worth pursuing. Commission Junction called them the “deal closer” sites, which went along with her previous mention about content being at the fop of the funnel. I liked Shareasale’s answer about seeing growth in affiliates who were willing to take on new challenges.
- How can we move the industry forward? Linkshare’s mention of their Forrester study was good because we need hard data, not just opinions. Shareasale talked about needing to work together toward common goals. Both Commission Junction and Pepperjam talked about incrementality.
That was the end of the moderator questions. Every person on the panel answered every question and with the exception of one tiny interaction between Linkshare and Commission Junction, none of the panelists followed up or took any stance against anything the others said. They pretty much agreed on everything with a few different details.
There was time for 3 audience questions. Linkshare answered that they do not consider poaching to in-house programs a problem because network tracking is so much more sophisticated. When asked about how to find merchants, the panelists basically said to check the site, ask an account manager, or do a search for products. The very last question was the best and most pointed: Who is accountable to the affiliates when the merchants try to take advantage of us? I loved the question but must not have loved the answers because I didn’t even write anything down.
All in all, this was a powerhouse panel of speakers. I bet between them they have 60+ years of experience in internet marketing. They’ve seen a lot, they know a lot, and they all present well. I would relish in the opportunity to sit down with any one of them and pick their brains about our industry and their networks in particular. But I don’t think they were really given much to work with or the format didn’t encourage discussion. Here are some things I would have loved to have heard them hash out:
- What is your network’s stance on toolbars and the overwriting of cookies? How do you enforce it?
- What kind of education does your network provide to affiliates and merchants?
- How active a role should the networks play in industry issues such as the affiliate tax? What responsibility do the networks have?
- Should the networks work together to form industry standards (through the PMA or otherwise) or should each network have different standards?
- What role should the government play in regulating affiliate marketing and/or setting standards?
Those were all just off the top of my head. Some of them could be answered on the spot but others would definitely require a little more prep time. Maybe next time questions could be submitted in advance by affiliates and merchants and the panel/moderator could choose from those questions? Or even the Affiliate Summit Advisory Board could pull them together and submit them to the moderator in advance? Just some thoughts about how we can hear from the networks but really get the answers we are all seeking.
What kind of questions would you like to have heard the network representatives answer?
Mary Poiley says
Great recap Tricia! Bummer that it wasn’t the session the panelist hoped it to be, but from your recap it still seems valuable. At least the attendees can follow up with the networks and hopefully were able to walk away with a sense that the Networks are there to answer their questions and help them succeed.
Tricia says
I think that was definitely the most important takeaway. I was able to talk to 3 of the 5 panelists after the session and get some questions answered for my own business. It was fabulous that they opened themselves up like that!
Kush A. says
Those who missed this session appreciate the recap Tricia – thank you ๐ I don’t feel too bad for missing it.
I’m wondering if one of the OPM firms that works with all of these networks could sponsor a webinar. Why wait till next summit? I’m sure everyone would be interested.
Tricia says
I would love to see it done anywhere!
Brian Littleton says
Hey Tricia – thanks for the writeup, and I agree that it wasn’t the session that I had hoped for either… I apologize for my own role in disappointing you and others… I think there were a number of factors that played in – but I can tell you that each of the panelists put a lot into it.. it just didn’t work out and while I don’t want to speak for everyone I think we would welcome a chance to try that again. ๐
Regarding Melanie’s question (and I left this comment on her blog as well) – it wasn’t an attempt to avoid the question… while I was answering, they were holding up the “wrap it up – time’s up” sign in the back that only the panelists and moderator could see…
I would love more question and answer, it is actually really hard to do a panel format and I think we would all have welcomed a chance to answer more questions on things that you actually want to hear about… the things important to you. If there was one takeaway that I had from that – it was that a session like this needs more time for participation.
By the way, I heard many great things about your session so congratulations on that! And of course, for the fabulous 70’s outfit at the ShareASale Party. ๐
Tricia says
The fact that you even bothered to leave a comment speaks volumes about your intentions with the panel. I hope that Affiliate Summit will not give up on the topic and will let us try to figure out a way to do it a little bit differently to get the results everyone involved was hoping for. Maybe we can combine your session with mine next time. ๐
Natalie says
You can choose a lot of kind of good tool bars..Just some thoughts about how we can hear from the networks but really get the answers we are all seeking.
Tricia says
I just saw your call out to see if anyone would do it again next time with the harder questions. I would really love to see that!
Melanie Seery says
Hi Tricia,
Good recap, echos my feelings pretty well.
I was the one who actually posed that queston. The reason you didn’t write anything down was that only Brian answered the question. Then they moved on to another question. My question asked for each network to answer what they are doing. I was disappointed that there were no other answers.
I did a recap on my blog entittled Barney not Rocky. I expected fireworks but instead felt like Barney was going to pop up and break out in a friendship song.